It's also viable, but I think that the lack of buff does inch your damage down compared to Holy. Not that I've tested personally (and it's not exactly an easy question to answer given how many variables are in play in a high-end party).@dairyzeus How about Terror? IIRC same weapon damage as Holy without it's special buff and in addition extra debuff. Would it be better than Vorpal?
@trzebiat the question 'is it better than vorpal?' is more largely dependent on your rotation than on which enchantment. I'm pretty confident any % weapon damage based enchantment (except maybe flaming due to jamming) with the 'proc rotation' (RoI in mastery, icy terrain, sudden storm, and disintegrate) will beat vorpal with that same rotation.@dairyzeus How about Terror? IIRC same weapon damage as Holy without it's special buff and in addition extra debuff. Would it be better than Vorpal?
That's what I do as well. I've done my fair share of experimenting, but this always holds out as the best for me.I run a high HP build (240K HP) and use Lightning with an AOE loadout and Feytouch with a single target loadout (no Icy Terrain).
That's what I do as well. I've done my fair share of experimenting, but this always holds out as the best for me.I run a high HP build (240K HP) and use Lightning with an AOE loadout and Feytouch with a single target loadout (no Icy Terrain).
Aura of Courage is 25-30% of CW DPS, manipulating the things which buff it is probably the Smart Thing to Do (tm).That's what I do as well. I've done my fair share of experimenting, but this always holds out as the best for me.I run a high HP build (240K HP) and use Lightning with an AOE loadout and Feytouch with a single target loadout (no Icy Terrain).
Well, that was for GWF related topics.
As far as holy vs terror, to roughly quote rjc - it depends on the length of the fight, they have the same % weapon damage boost so holy wins in quick fights where its extra damage proc is active, terror wins in long fights where the extra constant debuff becomes more valuable.
If you're using Mirage on single, you're most likely better off with Fey or any of the other proc enchants due to its hilarious multi-proccing capabilities. To not take advantage of its biggest feature would be a shame imo.@niadan@dairyzeus
I tried Sudden Storm but I don't feel it. I just prefer Steal Time, I like to jump in the middle of enemies to drop IT and just go with the rest from there. I'm in a small guild so I only have 2k Power (soon to be 3k) and 3.2k Defense, but the 14% Life Steal works well enough for me.
Are you suggesting running Abyss instead Icy Veins for trash heavy dungeons (eToS, eCC, eGWD, Spellplague)? I guess when there's another CW with Icy Veins there's no point running it too (e.g. in FBI), but freezing everything is fun.
I often run with MoF Rene, sometimes with another CW who uses Icy Veins and also RoE on single target. So then which one would be better - Icy Rays or Repel? I don't consider Sudden Storm because it's AoE and isn't boosted by Focused Wizardry (or should I?).
I'll try single target rotation with Vorpal and Mirage set in few days.
Lol, options on console. Good one.and make sure your options are set to auto fire.
@trzebiat I'd always take Icy veins for mobs. With good groups, the extra burst damage outweighs the overall damage increase from abyss. Also, since your playstyle sounds similar to mine, the CC cycles you can do with icy veins, steal time, and oppressive force come in very handy.
I tried Sudden Storm but I don't feel it. I just prefer Steal Time, I like to jump in the middle of enemies to drop IT and just go with the rest from there. I'm in a small guild so I only have 2k Power (soon to be 3k) and 3.2k Defense, but the 14% Life Steal works well enough for me.
Are you suggesting running Abyss instead Icy Veins for trash heavy dungeons (eToS, eCC, eGWD, Spellplague)? I guess when there's another CW with Icy Veins there's no point running it too (e.g. in FBI), but freezing everything is fun.
I often run with MoF Rene, sometimes with another CW who uses Icy Veins and also RoE on single target. So then which one would be better - Icy Rays or Repel? I don't consider Sudden Storm because it's AoE and isn't boosted by Focused Wizardry (or should I?).
I'll try single target rotation with Vorpal and Mirage set in few days.
@dicoum agree with niadan, our whole 'hijacking' has been about rotations and weapon enchantments and why some work better than others in various situations. CWs are kinda cool (and expensive) in that there is no 'run X weapon enchant' kind of answer.Feytouched/Bilethorn
Though before the hijack, I did give reason for using Feytouch about 4 posts into the thread. It is also important to understand why we are suggesting what to use, and answer / discuss what mechanics influence said choice.